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Slovenski raziskovalci so pri analizi pomivalnih strojev v več kot polovici našli nevarno glivo, ki lahko povzroči hude zdravstvene težave.
V študiji, objavljeni v znanstveni reviji Fungal Biology, so raziskovalci Polona Zalar, Nina Gunde-Cimerman, Sybren de Hoog in Monika Novak predstavili ugotovitve študije, v okviru katere so analizirali glive v 189 pomivalnih strojih iz 101 kraja oz. skupnosti.
101 vzorec gliv so dobili v pomivalnih strojih v slovenskih gospodinjstvih, 42 vzorcev iz drugih evropskih držav, 13 iz Severne in 3 iz Južne Amerike, 5 iz Izraela, 10 iz Južne Afrike in po sedem iz vzhodne Azije in Avstralije.
V vzorcih s tesnilne gume so našli "pripadnike" rodov Aspergillus, Candida, Magnusiomyces, Fusarium, Penicillium in Rhodotorula, najbolj skrb vzbujajoča pa je najdba gliv Exophiala - te so v pomivalnih strojih našli kar v 62 odstotkih primerov, od tega v 56 odstotkih vzorcev nevarni podvrsti Exophialo dermatitidis in Exophiala phaeomuriformis, raziskavo povzema britanski časnik Daily Mail.
Exophiala dermatitidis in Exophiala phaeomuriformis sta znani po tem, da se lahko naselita v pljučih ter povzročata težave z dihanjem in bolezni pljuč. Zanimivo in (skrb vzbujajoče) je predvsem to, da sta se obe vrsti gliv prilagodili na "življenje" v pomivalnem stroju - kljub visoki temperaturi in vlagi ter alkalnemu pH-ju.
Nevarni glivi je mogoče najti tudi v drugih kuhinjskih napravah oz. strojih - v aparatih za pripravo kave, pralnih strojih itd.
Skrb, kako se bodo glive še razvijale
V študiji, ki jo povzemajo številni svetovni mediji (poleg že omenjenega Daily Maila še Telegraph, Sydney Morning Herald, Times of India, Jutarnji list in drugi) raziskovalci še pravijo: "Odkritje te sicer razširjene glive v gospodinjskih napravah kaže, da se ti organizmi razvijajo na nenavaden evolucijski način, kar bi lahko pomenilo veliko tveganje za zdravje ljudi v prihodnje."
Jst sem si in jst v bajti nimam ne pomivalca in ne mikrovalovke,..slednja je izredno nevarna saj vpliva na potek razvoja raka oz. celic v krvi studijo je izvedel svicarski dr. Hans U. Hertel,..hrana je po termicni obdelavi iz mikrov. dejansko mrtva un strupena,...
Vtipkajte dr. Hans U. Hertel ....
http://goo.gl/HHNkR
http://si.draagle.com/#!browse/group/PKe
i7O5FkFtxmINmtUVeUw==/
prebere, kaj storiti ...
LETTER FROM RETHINKING AIDS SCIENTISTS CALLING FOR THE JOURNAL SCIENCE TO RETRACT ROBERT GALLO'S ORIGINAL PAPERS DECLARING HIV THE CAUSE OF AIDS:
Science/AAAS 1200 New York Avenue NW Washington, DC, 20005 +1-202-326-6400
December 1, 2008
To: Bruce Alberts, Editor in Chief, Science:
cc: Alan Lechner, CEO, AAAS
On May 4, 1984 your journal published four papers by a group led by Dr. Robert Gallo. We are writing to express our serious concerns with regard to the integrity and veracity of the lead paper among these four of which Dr. Mikulas Popovic is the lead author.[1] The other three are also of concern because they rely upon the conclusions of the lead paper.[2][3][4]
In the early 1990s, several highly critical reports on the research underlying these papers were produced as a result of governmental inquiries working under the supervision of scientists nominated by the National Academy of Sciences and the Institute of Medicine. The Office of Research Integrity of the US Department of Health and Human Services concluded that the lead paper was “fraught with false and erroneous statements,” and that the “ORI believes that the careless and unacceptable keeping of research records...reflects irresponsible laboratory management that has permanently impaired the ability to retrace the important steps taken.”[5] Further, a Congressional Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations led by US Representative John D. Dingell of Michigan produced a staff report on the papers which contains scathing criticisms of their integrity.[6]
Despite the publically available record of challenges to their veracity, these papers have remained uncorrected and continue to be part of the scientific record.
What prompts our communication today is the recent revelation of an astonishing number of previously unreported deletions and unjustified alterations made by Gallo to the lead paper. There are several documents originating from Gallo's laboratory that, while available for some time, have only recently been fully analyzed. These include a draft of the lead paper typewritten by Popovic which contains handwritten changes made to it by Gallo.[7] This draft was the key evidence used in the above described inquiries to establish that Gallo had concealed his laboratory's use of a cell culture sample (known as LAV) which it received from the Institut Pasteur.
These earlier inquiries verified that the typed manuscript draft was produced by Popovic who had carried out the recorded experiment while his laboratory chief, Gallo, was in Europe and that, upon his return, Gallo changed the document by hand a few days before it was submitted to Science on March 30, 1984. According to the ORI investigation, “Dr. Gallo systematically rewrote the manuscript for what would become a renowned LTCB [Gallo's laboratory at the National Cancer Institute] paper.”[5]
This document provided the important evidence that established the basis for awarding Dr. Luc Montagnier and Dr. Francoise Barré-Sinoussi the 2008 Nobel Prize in Medicine for the discovery of the AIDS virus by proving it was their samples of LAV that Popovic used in his key experiment. The draft reveals that Popovic had forthrightly admitted using the French samples of LAV renamed as Gallo’s virus, HTLV-III, and that Gallo had deleted this admission, concealing their use of LAV. However, it has not been previously reported that on page three of this same document Gallo had also deleted Popovic's unambiguous statement that, "Despite intensive research efforts, the causative agent of AIDS has not yet been identified,” replacing it in the published paper with a statement that said practically the opposite, namely, “That a retrovirus of the HTLV family might be an etiologic agent of AIDS was suggested by the findings.”
It is clear that the rest of Popovic's typed paper is entirely consistent with his statement that the cause of AIDS had not been found, despite his use of the French LAV. Popovic’s final conclusion was that the culture he produced “provides the possibility” for detailed studies. He claimed to have achieved nothing more. At no point in his paper did Popovic attempt to prove that any virus caused AIDS, and it is evident that Gallo concealed these key elements in Popovic’s experimental findings.
It is astonishing now to discover these unreported changes to such a seminal document. We can only assume that Gallo’s alterations of Popovic’s conclusions were not highlighted by earlier inquiries because the focus at the time was on establishing that the sample used by Gallo's lab came from Montagnier and was not independently collected by Gallo. In fact, the only attention paid to the deletions made by Gallo pertains to his effort to hide the identity of the sample. The questions of whether Gallo and Popovic’s research proved that LAV or any other virus was the cause of AIDS were clearly not considered.
Related to these questions are other long overlooked documents that merit your attention. One of these is a letter from Dr. Matthew A. Gonda, then Head of the Electron Microscopy Laboratory at the National Cancer Institute, which is addressed to Popovic, copied to Gallo and dated just four days prior to Gallo’s submission to Science.[8] In this letter, Gonda remarks on samples he had been sent for imaging because “Dr Gallo wanted these micrographs for publication because they contain HTLV.” He states, “I do not believe any of the particles photographed are of HTLV-I, II or III.” According to Gonda, one sample contained cellular debris, while another had no particles near the size of a retrovirus. Despite Gonda’s clearly worded statement, Science published on May 4, 1984 papers attributed to Gallo et al with micrographs attributed to Gonda and described unequivocally as HTLV-III.
In another letter by Gallo, dated one day before he submitted his papers to Science, Gallo states, “It’s extremely rare to find fresh cells [from AIDS patients] expressing the virus... cell culture seems to be necessary to induce virus,” a statement which raises the possibility he was working with a laboratory artifact. [9]
Included here are copies of these documents and links to the same. The very serious flaws they reveal in the preparation of the lead paper published in your journal in 1984 prompts our request that this paper be withdrawn. It appears that key experimental findings have been concealed. We further request that the three associated papers published on the same date also be withdrawn as they depend on the accuracy of this paper.
For the scientific record to be reliable, it is vital that papers shown to be flawed, or falsified be retracted. Because a very public record now exists showing that the Gallo papers drew unjustified conclusions, their withdrawal from Science is all the more important to maintain integrity. Future researchers must also understand they cannot rely on the 1984 Gallo papers for statements about HIV and AIDS, and all authors of papers that previously relied on this set of four papers should have the opportunity to consider whether their own conclusions are weakened by these revelations.
Respectfully,
Mohammed A. Al-Bayati, PhD, DABT, DABVT. Toxicologist & Pathologist, Toxi-Health International, Dixon, CA.
David A. Ballok, PhD, Department of Surgery, Division of Neurosurgery and Neurosciences, McMaster University, Canada.
Henry H. Bauer, PhD, Dean Emeritus of Arts & Sciences, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry & Science Studies, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University.
André-Pierre Benguerel, PhD, Professor Emeritus, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada. Terry Bennett, MD, MPH.
Harvey Bialy, PhD, founding scientific editor of Nature Biotechnology, author of Oncogenes, Aneuploidy and AIDS: A Scientific Life & Times of Peter H. Duesberg.
Christopher Black, Barrister, International Criminal Lawyer, Lead Counsel, Rwanda War Crimes Tribunal. Kelly Brennan-Jones, PhD, Associate Professor of Psychology, SUNY Brockport, New York, USA. Darin Brown, PhD, Mathematics.
Gordon Burns, PhD, Professor of Cancer Research, The University of Newcastle, Australia.
Jennifer L. Craig, BSN, MA, PhD.
Etienne de Harven, MD, Professor Emeritus, University of Toronto. Signature available on request.
Andrea G. Drusini, MD, PhD, Medical Anthropologist, Professor of Anthropology, Department of Medico-Diagnostic Sciences and Special Therapies, University of Padova, Italy.
Charles Geshekter, PhD, Professor Emeritus of History, Chair, History of Science Section, AAAS/Pacific Division (1990-95). California State University, Chico. Signature available on request.
Roberto Giraldo, MD, Specialist in internal medicine, infectious and tropical diseases. Member of the Department of Integral Psychosomatic Medicine, International Society of Analytical Trilogy, São Paulo, Brazil. Signature available on request.
Pablo L. E. Idahosa, PhD, Professor, Social Science Program Director, African Studies Graduate Program, International Development Studies Founders College, York University, Canada. Signature available on request. Matt Irwin, MD, MSW, Private practice, Alexandria, Virginia.
Joel M. Kauffman, Professor of Chemistry Emeritus, University of the Sciences in Philadelphia, Medical Writer.
Claus Koehnlein, MD, Specialist in internal medicine, Dept. of Oncology, Univ. of Kiel, Germany (1983 -1993). Since 1993, in private practice increasingly treating HIV-positive people who decline antiviral drugs. Member of South Africa Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel.
Hans J. Kugler,PhD, President, International Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine.
Helen Lauer, PhD, Associate Professor, Philosophy Department Head, University of Ghana.
Herbert G. Lebherz, PhD, Professor of Chemistry and Biochemistry (Emeritus). San Diego State University, USA.
Stoffer Loman, BSc, MSc, PhD.
Ahmed Makata, Dip (clin medicine–TZ), MD (USSR), certificate (Tropical pathology–Japan), PhD (Path–Japan), DFM (Path–RCPA– Australia), Forensic Consultant, Histopathologist, Head of Forensic Unit, Ministry of Health, Tanzania. Signature available on request.
Andrew Maniotis, PhD, University of Illinois at Chicago. Signature available on request.
Jonas Moses, PhD, PA, Former US Army clinician (in Ophthalmology), cancer biologist in the Dept. of Pathology, Univ. of Illinois – Chicago (2002-2007), and consulting cell and tissue engineer.
Paul Olisa Adaka Ojeih, PhD, MD, Medical Director, Iris Medical Foundation, Lagos, Nigeria.
Nikitah Okembe-RA Imani, Associate Professor of Sociology and African Studies, James Madison University. Signature available on request.
Philippe Packard, PhD, MPH. Signature available on request.
David Rasnick, PhD, Biochemist, Protease Inhibitor Developer, Chief Scientific Officer, Chromosome Diagnostics, LLC.
Prof. Dr. med. Jochen Schaefer, Director, International Institute for Theoretical Cardiology, Kiel, Germany.
Hugo Stenström, MD, Senior interventional radiologist, Department of Radiology, Linkoping University Hospital, Sweden.
Gordon T. Stewart, MD. Emeritus Professor of Public Health, University of Glasgow, and consultant physician (epidemiology and preventive medicine), NHS, UK. Former consultant to New York City, WHO and to other health authorities in Europe, North America, Africa and Asia on AIDS and related matters. Emeritus Fellow, Infectious Diseases Society of America and former member of the editorial board of the Journal of Infectious Diseases. Signature available on request.
Roberto P. Stock, PhD. Research Scientist Instituto de Biotecnologia – UNAM, Mexico.
Jean Umber, Professeur agrégé (Organic Chemistry), Académie de Nancy-Metz, Lorraine, France.
Rudolf Werner, Professor, Dept. of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology Univ. of Miami School of Medicine.
Chun Xu, MD, PhD, VP Global Clinical Services, Venturepharm Lab. Beijing, China.
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References:
[1] Popovic M et al. Detection, Isolation, and Continuous Production of Cytopathic Retroviruses (HTLV-III) from Patients with AIDS and Pre-AIDS. Science. 1984 May 4; 224: 497-500.
[2] Sarngadharan MG et al. Antibodies Reactive with Human TLymphotropic Retroviruses (HTLV-III in the Serum of Patients with AIDS). Science. 1984 May 4; 224: 506-8.
[3] Gallo RC et al. Frequent Detection and Isolation of Cytopathic Retroviruses (HTLV-III) from Patients with AIDS and at Risk for AIDS. Science. 1984 May 4; 224: 500-3.
[4] Schüpbach J et al. Serological Analysis of a Subgroup of Human TLymphotropic Retroviruses (HTLV-III) Associated with AIDS. Science. 1984 May 4; 224: 503-505.
[5] "Offer of Proof", Office of Research Integrity, US Department of Health and Human Services, 1993. http://sciencefictions.net/pdfdocs/ori_o
p_part1.pdf, http://sciencefictions.net/pdfdocs/ori_o
p_part2.pdf, http://sciencefictions.net/pdfdocs/ori_o
p_part3.pdf, http://sciencefictions.net/pdfdocs/ori_o
p_part4.pdf
[6] Staff Report. Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. Dingell Committee on Energy and Commerce, House of Representatives. 1994. Archived at: http://healtoronto.com/gallodocs.html
[7] Draft of M. Popovic's May 4 1984 Science article. http://sciencefictions.net/pdfdocs/draft
_of_m_popovic_05.04.84_science_article_u
ndated.pdf
[8] Letter from Dr. M. Gonda to Dr. M. Popovic (cc R. Gallo). 1984 Mar 26. http://sciencefictions.net/pdfdocs/Lette
r_from_M_Gonda_to_M_Popovic_03.26.84.pdf
[9] Gallo RC. Letter to Jun Minowada, MD. Personal Correspondence. 1984 Mar 29. http://sciencefictions.net/pdfdocs/Lette
r_from_R_Gallo_to_J_Minowada_03.29.84.pd
raziskava iz 1997, ki si jo tu servirala kot da je dala končni odgovor, tega žal ni uspela:
THE HUW CHRISTIE MEMORIAL PRIZE
$20,000 Reward for 'HIV' Offered by Alexander Russell
April 2002
"...infectious units, after all, are the only clinically relevant criteria for a viral pathogen."
-- Peter Duesberg and Harvey Bialy (Nature, 375, 1995, p. 197)
"You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists."
-- Abbie Hoffman
I am offering £10,000 Reward for the first person who can prove that 'HIV' exists. (see full details below).
Hans Gelderblom of Berlin's Robert Koch Institute co-authored the first paper in Virology, March 1997, showing 'purified HIV' to be 'purified microvesicles'. What was assumed to be 'purified HIV' was in fact "an excess of vesicles" - particles of cellular proteins. The hypothetical 'HIV' is in fact a collection of endogenous microvesicles and cellular proteins (which also never seem to form particles - so how can they be infectious)? Cell-free viral 'HIV' particles have never ever been visualised in any freshly donated bodily fluid including semen, blood, etc. 'HIV' has never ever proven to be a sexually transmitted retrovirus.
The key fact to remember is that cell-free infectious 'HIV' viral particles have never, repeat never, been recovered from fresh donor semen. It is homophobic nonsense to say 'HIV' is sexually transmitted via anal sex as well as scientifically totally unproven. 'HIV' is not an STD.
The rules demonstrating the existence of 'HIV' (and retroviruses in general) were never adhered to by those who devised them nor were they ever validated. No particle of 'HIV' has ever been obtained pure, free of contaminants; nor has a complete piece of 'HIV RNA' (or the transcribed DNA) ever been proved to exist.
The immunological-stressors of the 'gay life style' (recreational drug use, antibiotics, flu jabs, alcoholism, untreated STDs, etc) can make many gay men test 'HIV' positive. Gay men are testing 'HIV' positive not because of the non-existent 'HIV' but because of over 70 conditions which make the test run 'positive'. All 'HIV' testing kits come with the warning that they must not and cannot be used as diagnostic tools to prove 'HIV' infection.
So confident am I that no such electron-micrograph evidence for the existence of 'HIV' can be produced by adhering strictly to the Etienne de Harven methodology, I am prepared to offer the sum of £10,000 to the first person to submit just such a micrograph, prepared under stringent laboratory conditions. I do not want 'markers' for 'viral activity' which are at very best, inaccurate. I want visual evidence of myriad active, infectious viral particles, clearly morphologically defined recovered from a fresh sample of bodily fluid, unadulterated with any other kinds of cells: i.e: CEM,H9 cancer cells. As Peter Duesberg and Harvey Bialy stated in Nature: "...infectious units, after all, are the only clinically relevant criteria for a viral pathogen." (Nature, 375, 1995, p. 197) Once again, to paraphrase Peter Duesberg, an alleged 'virus' which is not doing anything cannot be 'causing' anything.
The rules for attempting to isolate the putative 'HIV' via the Etienne de Harven methodology are:
1. Only plasma centrifuged from fresh whole blood may be used in the experiment. No material derived from cultured cells will be considered, to rule out 'viral particles' which may be merely cultural artefacts.
2. The donor blood/plasma must be taken from a person/persons with a recent 'high-viral load' test result, and evidence for the date and result of the test (the number of 'HIV'- RNA's alleged) must be submitted, obviously with the name of the person/persons deleted to preserve donor confidentiality.
3. The donor must not be in receipt of protease inhibitors, AZT or any 'antiviral drugs'.
4. Only cold heparinised Ringer's solution may be used to dilute the plasma 1/1 ( i.e. 50%).
5. The diluted plasma shall be first filtered by aspiration-filtration, through a 0.6 millipore membrane. The resulting filtrate #1 will then be filtered again, this time using a 0.22 millipore membrane and filtrate #2 will be submitted to ultracentrifugation.
6. Centrifugation at 30,000 g for two hours will be used to prepare a pellet, likely to be extremely small. This pellet will be fixed with glutaraldehyde and osmium, then carefully detached and embedded in epoxy resins following routine EM procedures.
7. The electronmicrograph shall be at least 19,500 x magnification, and must resemble that published in Fig.1 of this article for particle size and shape, but with one notable and important variation. 'HIV' has been deemed to be a lentivirus, possessing a dense core of truncated conical shape. An ultrathin slice of randomly packed lentiviruses must inevitably show a number of particles bisected to show this core lengthwise, as well as end-on, with a resultant apparent mixture of round and 'rod-shaped' dense cores. Any micrograph which does not clearly show this feature will be deemed not to represent the lentivirus 'HIV'.
8. This challenge is open to any qualified scientists, or microbiology students/lab technicians with the necessary lab skills and facilities to carry out the work.
Photographs of the required electron-micrograph(s) plus full details of the methodology, along with brief details of the senders' qualifications, must be sent to me at: alex@lalage52.freeserve.co.uk
Alexander Russell
NB: Etienne de Harven is Emeritus Professor of Pathology, University of Toronto. He worked in electron microscopy primarily on the ultrastructure of retroviruses throughout his professional career of 25 years at the Sloan Kettering Institute in New York, and 13 years at the University of Toronto.
icle/pii/S0952791596800756
Pa saj ne da pričakujem, da boš članek prebrala, kaj šele razumela. Navsezadnje je napisan argumentirano in ne googlovsko/paničarsko/tračevsko, kar očitno ustreza tvojemu načinu razmišljanja.
Želim ti veliko sreče v tvojem malem omejenem svetu. End of discussion.
Nekaterim pa ista informacija vzbudi potrebo po zanikanju in posmehovanju, kako smo različni...
Samo navesti moraš strokovno literaturo, v kateri je bila objavljena strokovna raziskava s tem rezultatom (da aids povzroča virus HIV).
Zapisnik s sodišča, kako slavni kreator HIV=aids dogme, dr. Gallo, prizna,
da se je zlagal o svoji raziskavi, s katero naj bi dokazal, da virus hiv povzroča aids:
February 2007, Avstralija
HIV on Trial in Australia: Court Weighs Evidence for Claims of Isolation, Transmission and Testing
A motion for appeal in a criminal hearing in Adelaide, Australia has become the focus of international attention as fundamental claims by orthodox AIDS researchers — including the infamous Dr Robert Gallo — come under vigorous cross-examination by an attorney demanding scientific evidence that the virus exists. Top AIDS industry spokespersons from around the world have appeared in person or by satellite in Adelaide to defend the HIV hypothesis against charges by a local team of scientific and medical experts known as "The Perth Group." The Perth Group asserts that two decades of AIDS research have failed to produce a purified isolate of HIV, validation of the accuracy so-called HIV tests, or proof that HIV is transmitted through bodily fluids.
Below are two news articles about the legal proceedings. Other information about the trial and actual transcripts of testimony can be found at http://aras.ab.ca/index.php
For this week's testimony by alleged HIV discoverer Dr Robert Gallo, go directly to Gallo-Transcript.pdf
Michael Geiger, a close observer of the events in Adelaide, reports being "stunned and amazed" by Gallo's statements to the court. Geiger says, "It's difficult to tell if Gallo was defending HIV or if his testimony is a public admission of guilt."
Geiger urges transcript readers to note:
* Page 1294 where Gallo agrees that he found evidence of HIV in only 40% of the AIDS patients in his original study, and that 40% is not enough to prove HIV is the cause of AIDS:
Attorney to Gallo: "You had…48 out of 119, or 40%?"
Gallo: "I agree"
Attorney: "Do you agree that the isolation of HIV from only 40% of patients is not proof that HIV causes AIDS?"
Gallo: "I would say of course, in and of itself, 40% isolation of a new virus, I would not say is the cause."
* Page 1300 where Gallo admits to finding low percentages of HIV positivity in people with AIDS symptoms:
Attorney: "For…adults with KS, 30%; for adults…with AIDS opportunistic infections 47%. Do you accept your figures?"
Gallo: "I accept the figures."
* Page 1317 where Gallo acknowledges finding no HIV in KS lesions or in T cells, and testimony on page 1318 in which Gallo admits that "viral load" tests cannot be used to prove infection with a virus.
The language in news articles covering the Adelaide trial speaks loudly and clearly of media prejudice in AIDS reporting. In the first of the two pieces that follow, medical and scientific experts challenging the notion that HIV has been isolated according to proper, scientific standards are branded "an organized group of HIV deniers" and lack official titles such as MD, while those being called by the court to produce evidence are referred to as "experts" with repeated references to their professional credentials.
The obvious bent of Australian coverage is at least one step up from the US media response: Not a single story on the uproar from down under has appeared in American news.
Audrey Serrano, pomotoma diagnosticirana kot HIV pozitivna, je po desetletju antivirusne terapije razvila sindrom 'aids'.
Dosojena ji je bila 2,5 milj. dolarjev visoka odškodnina.
http://seattle.tribe.net/listing/WOWSerr
ano-25-Million-Award-Over-False-%20HIV-Pos-Raises-Basic-Questions/seattle-wa%20/69418e69-0eb4-4d5d-a3ba-6136eafb8128?directory=true
Katere so še potrebne metode za uničenje glivic?
Tale diplomska naloga mi je zanimiva:
link
najmanj pravico do obveščenosti.
Vsem nam je bilo ob nepopisni HIV=aids gonji zadnjih 25 let povsem prikrito in zamolčano dejstvo, da prav NOBEN od testov na HIV s PCR vred ni deklariran za potrditev prisotnosti virusa HIV in to že celo v navodilu proizvajalca testa -saj je to res težko verjeti ob tem, kar danes pomeni 'biti HIV pozitiven'
zame je bila to NOVICA za pasti na hrbet,
zate je pa očitno vse OK, tudi prav.
še naprej nalašč odgovarjaš mimo - koga misliš, da imaš za tepčka?
Očitno je tvoj odgovor a) in je potem nadaljevanje te debate precej nesmiselno. Ti bom povedal zakaj.
PCR ali slovensko verižna reakcija s polimerazo je metoda podvajanja DNA ali v tem primeru RNA. Protitelesa so proteini, proteini se ne podvajajo. Ergo, PCR ne moreš uporabiti na protitelesih. Gre za najbolj osnovno metodo genetike, zato ne verjamem, da kateri od imenovanih doktorjev tega ne bi vedel in bi izjavil tako kolosalno neumnost.
Z nekom, ki je pripravljen priznati, da česa ne ve, ali da se je zmotil, bi z veseljem kramljal, ker tudi jaz marsičesa ne vem in lahko oba profitirava. Ti pa nočeš priznati, da se motiš/ne veš, ampak poskušaš izblefirati nek zasilni izhod. Pri tem, da ti niso jasne osnove, vehementno trdiš neke gotove stvari (ki to niso), ko pa te kdo kaj vpraša, pa ga napotiš na tegaintega dr. in onegainonega bhpr. Morda se komu to zdi duhovito, meni se zdi strahopetno. To ni argument, to je zvijača. In zvijač kar mrgoli.
Ta debata je zaključena, ker tebe dejansko ne zanima resnica, ampak je tvoj namen propagiranje teorije zarote. S takimi pa naj se prepira kdo drug.
Roche's PCR amplicor HIV monitor test says that it is not intended
to be used as a screening test for HIV, nor as a diagnostic test to confirm HIV
infection.
Years from now, people will find our acceptance of the HIV theory of AIDS as silly as we find those who excommunicated Galileo.
(Dancing Naked in the Mind Field, 1998)
Assistant Research Professor
Program Director
Cell and Development Biology of Cancer,
Departments of Pathology and Bioengineering,
University of Illinois, Chicago
Andrew Maniotis, Ph.D.
Chicago, Ill., U.S. (Central time zone)
312-996-4838 office
773-960-9084 mobile
amanioti@uic.edu
Ti praviš da naj nobeden od testov za dokazovanje HIVa ne bi dokazoval virusa ampak samo protitelesa. Ali pcr dokazuje protitelesa (pustimo ostale)? Ni esejski tip vprašanja, ampak izbirni. Možni odgovori: a)da, b)ne, c)ne vem.
V primeru, da je tvoj odgovor a) je nadaljna debata nesmiselna. V primeru c) nič hudega, vseskozi se učimo, lapsus. V primeru b) korigiraj svojo izjavo. V primeru d)to trdi nek dr. Mantiotis... fail
Super, ne?
Osebno sem sicer prepričana, da bi se pa spodobilo, da bi vrli testatorji svoje potencialne žrtve pred testiranjem seznanili s tem testnim obvestilom, kaj meniš?
dr. Maniotis bo v tem izčrpnem predavanju verjetno kompetentnejši:
http://aras.ab.ca/articles/scientific/20
071007-Maniotis-Lambros.pdf
''...the makers of the test kits used to measure “HIV” or
progression to “AIDS” are themselves aware of these issues, because they all
claim their ELISA, Western Blot, and PCR-based kits can't really detect “HIV”
virus.
For example, Abbott Laboratory's ELISA HIV test kit package
insert says that ELISA testing alone cannot be used to diagnose AIDS.
Which other test do you need and why do you need it if they are so
accurate? Perhaps the most important statement on Abbott's insert says that:
“At present, there is no recognized standard for establishing the
presence or absence of HIV antibody in Human blood.”
Epitope's Western Blot test kit insert says, do not use this kit as the
sole basis for diagnosing HIV infection.
Why not?
Roche's PCR amplicor HIV monitor test says that it is not intended
to be used as a screening test for HIV, nor as a diagnostic test to confirm HIV
infection.If it isn't a screening or diagnostic test, then what kind of test is it? A
lie detector to see if you've been sleeping around?
The NucliSens HIV assay says that is not intended to be used as a
screening test for HIV, nor used as a diagnostic test to confirm the presence of
HIV-1 infection.
So, you can't screen with it or diagnose anybody with it? Do you
see what I mean?
"COBAS AmpliScreen HIV-1 test says that it is not intended for use
as an aid in diagnosis.”
What's it intended for then?
The Cambridge Biotech's HIV Western Blot Kit insert says that the
clinical implications of antibodies to HIV in an asymptomatic person are “not
known.” This caveat on the package insert is actually a printed concession that it
is not known whether HIV is the cause of AIDS. It's right there in the HIV test kit
itself.
We are constantly told by the media and government that the
clinical significance of the antibodies meant that you were going to die of AIDS
eventually. How can they give drugs to millions on other continents or to infants,
or to anyone else, without knowing what the clinical significance of testing
positive is?
The OraSure HIV Western Blot kit is not intended for use with
blood, serum, plasma, or urine specimens, or for screening or reinstating
potential blood donors.
Who is left to test then? Why should the molecular signature of
“HIV” vary from fluid to fluid in the body, or why can't you test a blood donor but
you can test a health care worker or someone else? Do you think it matters to
any of the "AIDS establishment" that a single Orasure ELISA without a
confirmatory WESTERN blot was used in 2001 in the Nelson Mandela study in
South Africa to show that 4.8 million people are infected?
...''
pcr po tvoje dokazuje protitelesa?
..The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV-AIDS Hypothesis came into existence as a group of signatories of an open letter to the scientific community. The letter (dated June 6, 1991) has been submitted to the editors of Nature, Science, The Lancet and The New England Journal of Medicine. All have refused to publish it. In 1995 The Group was able to get a letter published in Science.
You can also sign the statement below online.
To the editor:
It is widely believed by the general public that a retrovirus called HIV causes the group diseases called AIDS. Many biochemical scientists now question this hypothesis. We propose that a thorough reappraisal of the existing evidence for and against this hypothesis be conducted by a suitable independent group. We further propose that critical epidemiological studies be devised and undertaken.
Signatories:
Charles A. Thomas, Jr. Ph.D. (Mol. Biologist, Pres. Helicon Fnd., San Diego, CA)
Harvey Bialy, Ph.D. (Editor Bio/Technology, New York, NY)
Harry Rubin, D.V.M. (Prof. Cell Biology, Univ. Cal. Berkeley, CA)
Richard C. Strohman, Ph.D. (Prof. Cell Biology, Univ. Cal. Berkeley, CA)
Phillip E. Johnson (Prof. Law, Univ. Cal. Berkeley, CA)
Gordon J. Edlin, Ph.D. (Prof. Biochem. & Physics, Univ. Hawaii, HI)
Beverly E. Griffin, Ph.D. (Dir. Dept. Virology, Royal Postgrad. Med. School, London, UK)
Robert S. Root-Bernstein (Prof. Physiology, Michigan State Univ., East Lansing, MI)
Gordon Stewart, M.D. (Emeritus Prof. Public Health, Epidemiologist, Isle of Wight, UK)
Carlos Sonnenschein, M.D. (Tufts Univ., Medicine, Boston, MA)
Richard L. Pitter, Ph.D. (Dessert Research Inst., Univ. Nevada System, Reno NV)
Nathaniel S. Lehrman, M.D. (Psychiatrist, Roslyn, NY)
John Lauritsen (Author 'Poison by Prescription', New York, NY)
William Holub, Ph.D. (Biochemist, Live Sciences Inst. New York, NY)
Claudia Holub, Ph.D. (Biochemist, Live Sciences Inst. New York, NY)
Frank R. Buianouckas Ph.D. (Prof. Mathematics, Cuny, Bronx, NY)
Philip Rosen, Ph.D. (Prof. Physics, Univ. Mass. Amherst, MA)
Steven Jonas, M.D. (Prof. Preventive Medicine, Suny Stony Brook, NY)
Bernard K. Forscher, Ph.D (Ret. Editor Proc. Nat. Acad. Sci., Santa Fe, NM)
Kary B. Mullis, Ph.D. (Biochemist, PCR inventor, Consultant, La Jolla, CA.)
Jeffrey A. Fisher, M.D. (Pathologist, Mendham, NJ)
Hansueli Albonico, M.D. (General Practitioner, Langnau, Switzerland)
Robert Hoffman, Ph.D. (Prof. Dept. Pediatrics Univ. Cal. Med. School, San Diego, CA)
Timothy H. Hand, Ph.D. (Dept. Psychology, Oglethorpe Univ. Atlanta, GA)
Eleni Eleopulos, M.D. (Royal Perth Hospital, Perth, West Australia)
Robert W. Maver, F.S.A., M.A.A. (Dir. Research, Mutual Benefit Life, Kansas City, MO)
Ken N. Matsumura, M.D. (Chairman Alin Foundation & Research Inst., Berkeley, CA.)
David T. Berner, M.D. (Condon, MT)
Theodor Wieland, Ph.D. (Max Planck Institut, Heidelberg, Germany)
Joan Shenton, M.A. (Meditel, London, UK)
John Anthony Morris, Ph.D. (Biochemist, Bell of Atari College Park, MD)
Sungchul Ji, Ph.D. (Prof. Pharmacology & Toxicology, Rutgers Univ., Piscataway, NJ)
...
tu (ali morda na virusmyth.com) se najde tudi dvainpoltisoč podpornikov z referencami z vseh držav sveta
David Crowe
Rethinking AIDS President
HBSc Hons. Biology/Mathematics, 1978 (Lakehead University, Ontario). President and Founder, Alberta Reappraising AIDS Society, Member of Advisory Council for AnotherLook, Founder and Co-Host for "How Positive Are You? podcast".
Etienne de Harven, MD
Rethinking AIDS Past President
Member and Professor in cell biology, Sloan Kettering Institute, New York, 1956-1981. Isolated and obtained the first electron microscopic studies of the murine Friend leukemia virus, and retroviral budding. Director of the Electron Microscopy Laboratory at the Banting Institute, Department of Pathology, University of Toronto. He is also a member of South Africa's Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel.
And, in alphabetical order (by last name):
Dr. Henry Bauer
Henry Bauer is Professor Emeritus of Chemistry & Science Studies and Dean Emeritus of Arts & Sciences, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University (Virginia Tech). Earlier he had been at the Universities of Sydney, Michigan, Southampton, and Kentucky. He is Austrian by birth (1931), Australian by education (1939-56), and American (since 1969) by choice. His publications include more than a hundred articles and ten books, chiefly in chemistry and science studies – full details and curriculum vitae at henryhbauer.homestead.com. The Origin, Persistence and Failings of HIV/AIDS Theory was published in 2007. Dogmatism in Science and Medicine: How Dominant Theories Monopolize Research and Stifle the Search for Truth will be published in 2011. Currently blogging at hivskeptic.wordpress.com.
Peter H. Duesberg, PhD
Professor of molecular and cell biology at the University of California, Berkeley. In 1968-1970 he demonstrated that influenza virus has a segmented genome. This would explain its unique ability to form recombinants by reassortment of subgenomic segments. He isolated the first cancer gene through his work on retroviruses in 1970, and mapped the genetic structure of these viruses. This, and his subsequent work in the same field, resulted in his election to the National Academy of Sciences in 1986. He was also the recipient of a seven-year Outstanding Investigator Grant from the National Institutes of Health from 1985-1992. He is also a member of South Africa's Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel.
Christian Fiala, MD
Dr. Christian Fiala is a gynaecologist and obstetrician and currently working in Vienna, but has extensive experience in Thailand and Africa. April, 2007, he established the Museum of Contraception and Abortion. For almost 20 years he has been following critically the scientific and political discussion on the epidemiological aspects of AIDS and contributed actively. He was a member of the Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel in South Africa. Dr. Fiala has published many papers focused on the problems of AIDS in Africa and the definition of AIDS. is the author of the book "Do We Love Dangerously? - A Doctor in Search of the Facts and Background to AIDS" (Lieben wir gefaehrlich? - Ein Arzt auf der Suche nach den Fakten und Hintergruenden von AIDS) (1997); and the article in English, Aids: are we being deceived?
Charles L. Geshekter, PhD
Professor of African history at California State University, Chico, recipient of grants from the Ford Foundation, Fulbright-Hayes, National Endowment for the Humanities and Social Science Research Council. From 1991-95, he chaired the History of Science Section of the AAAS and was a member of its Executive Council. He is also a member of South Africa's Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel.
charles.geshekter@rethinkingaids.com
Roberto Giraldo
MD (University of Antioquia, Colombia, specialty internal medicine); Master of Science in infectious and tropical diseases (U. of London, The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine). Member of South Africa's Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel.
Claus Koehnlein, MD
Specialist in internal medicine, Dept. of Oncology, Univ. of Kiel, Germany (1983 -1993). Since 1993, in private practice increasingly treating HIV- positive people who decline antiviral drugs. Member of SA Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel.
Helen Lauer, PhD
Associate Professor and Head of Philosphy at the University of Ghana with a PhD from City University in New York. She teaches Ethics, Logic, several types of Philosophy and Critical Thinking for both Humanities and Science students. Her specialties are in the philosophy of mind and language and action theory. She has edited and contributed to two books on the history and philosophy of science and is also editing and contributing to the upcoming books entitled “Reclaiming the Human Sciences and Humanities through African Perspectives” and “Thinking Straight about Epidemics, STDs and AIDS in Ghana” (English and Twi). She is the editor of the forthcoming “Culture and Justice”. Dr. Lauer has also published many journal articles, delivered several papers at academic conferences, contributed chapters to anthologies and has produced many other short publications such as review articles.
Robert Leppo
BA, Stanford University (1965); MBA, Harvard Business School (1969). Historian, philanthropist, and investor.
Frank Lusardi
Professional software developer.
David Rasnick, PhD
Senior Researcher, Rath Health Foundation, Africa. Between 1978 and 1996, he worked as a pharmaceutical protein chemist at Abbott Laboratories, Enzyme Systems Products, Prototek, Inc., and Khepri Pharmaceuticals. He was a visiting scholar at the department of molecular and cell biology, UC Berkeley (1996-2005), where he worked in the Duesberg laboratory on the aneuploidy theory of cancer. He is also a member of South Africa's Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel.
Marco Ruggiero, PhD
Marco Ruggiero is board-certified medical doctor and clinical radiologist and holds a PhD in molecular biology. He served as Medical Officer (Lieutenant) in the Italian Army. He is full professor of molecular biology and genetics at the University of Firenze, Italy where he teaches in the Faculties of Medicine, Sciences (chemistry, biology and biotechnology) and Engineering. He spent two years as post-doctoral fellow at Burroughs Wellcome Co. (Research Triangle Park, NC, USA) in 1984-86, where he had the opportunity to collaborate and publish with Nobel Laureate Sir John Vane. He subsequently spent three years as post-doctoral fellow at the Laboratory of Cellular and Molecular Biology of the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, MD, USA, sharing the office with Professor Duesberg as he was visiting the Laboratory. Afterwards, he spent two years as Lab Chief at the Sigma-Tau pharmaceutical company in Milan, Italy. He became associate professor of molecular biology at the University of Firenze in 1992, and full professor in 2002. The research of Professor Ruggiero deals with the study of the molecular mechanisms responsible for cell transformation, signalling and death in different human pathologies from cancer to aids. The results of his research have been published in peer-reviewed, PubMed-indexed, scientific journals and in book chapters.
Joan Shenton
Founder and administrator of the registered charity and NGO, Immunity Resource Foundation and the author of Positively False: Exposing the myths around HIV and AIDS. She is an award winning television producer whose company Meditel Productions specialized in science and medical programmes. In 1987 she produced the first documentary challenging the science behind the HIV/ AIDS hypothesis: AIDS—The Unheard Voices (Dispatches Ch4) which won the Royal Television Society Award for Journalism. Three further Dispatches documentaries followed on the subject, The AIDS Catch, AZT—Cause for Concern and AIDS and Africa. Sky News has broadcast Diary of an AIDS Dissident, AIDS Dissidents in Europe and AZT Babies. In 2000, she was granted an interview by the South African president Thabo Mbeki which was broadcast by M-Net South Africa – Search for Solutions—The Great AIDS Debate. Joan Shenton is currently compiling 15 years of archive material on the AIDS debate for the Immunity Resource Foundation website.
Gordon Stewart, MD
Emeritus Professor of Public Health, Univ Glasgow, UK; Formerly professor of epidemiology, Univ. NC at Chapel Hill, NC; Watkins Chair of Epidemiology and Professor of Medicine, Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA; Consultant, New York City Health Dept; WHO; Senior Visiting Fellow, US National Science Foundation; Emeritus Fellow, Infectious Diseases Society of America. Member of South Africa's Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel.
2. povezava med sesutim imunskim sistemom in tem spornim HIVom je pa remek delo in svetovna slava in večni uspeh dr. Galla, ki je svoj znanstveni dosežek, da aids povzroča ta virus HIV, dokazano FALSIFICIRAL, nenazadnje obstaja prav tako vsem dosegljiv zapisnik s pričanja na sodišču 2007. , ko je tudi javno priznal, da nima opravljene nobene raziskave, ki bi dokazala, da aids povzroča virus HIV.
3. testi na HIV?
Prav nobeden od njih ni deklariran za potrditev PRISOTNOSTI VIRUSA HIV, vsi so testi za ugotavljanje PROTITELESC (za nikoli po strokovnih kriterijih izoliran virus HIV)
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stran vodijo zdravniki, profesorji, raziskovalci, zastavili so uspešne kariere za resnico in stroko.
22. junij 2011 ob 17:50
Prijavi neprimerno vsebino@Gyorgy: Sej enkrat je čez noč tudi virus HIV postal nevaren, ko so ga raziskal...
Aja, a da so HIV raziskali?
Zaenkrat ga niso niti še izolirali po zahtevanih kriterijih stroke (1973), nobelovo so zanj pa res že podelili, kar je zelo koristno za uspešen smrtno resen milijardni HIV=aids biznis...
Poročilo samega Nobelovca Montagnierja (intrvju na Pasteur. Inšt. 1997) o njegovem 'odkritju' HIVa:
RezultatiHIV & AIDS - Interview Luc Montagnier - [ Prevedi to stran ]Please note: The answers by Luc Montagnier have been numbered for easier .... LM : I repeat we did not purify. We purified to characterise the density of the ...
www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/dtinterviewlm.htm - Posnetek - Podobno
Bom še enkrat ponovil neproblematični del zapisa, ostalo naj si pa vsak sam sestavi.
Cistična fibroza je genetska bolezen. Okvarjen je gen za klorov kanalček, zaradi česar se ne morejo normalno tvoriti telesni izločki, med drugim sluz v dihalnih poteh. Posledica je neuspešno odstranjevanje mikroorganizmov iz dihal, in obstrukcija pretoka zraka po dihalnih poteh, zaradi česar so dihala bolj izpostavljena okužbam. Eden od številnih povzročiteljev teh okužb je Exophiala. Daleč od tega, da bi bila ta gliva povzročitelj cistične fibroze.
Sicer je pa na objavljen že tudi intervju s prof. Cimermanovo, kjer je to pojasnjeno.
Očitno je senzacije željan novinar površno prebral članek naših raziskovalcev, nato pa so ga vsi ostali povzeli, ne da bi sami preverili. Že videno.
Oziroma, da se izrazim po zdravniško ... manjka patologija :D
bravo, le tako naprej!
preseneča "prehitra" evolucija gob, kar lahko ogrozi tudi tiste, ki bodo posodo pomivali na roke, njihove otroke in njihove vnuke.
glede na to, da mi že 20 let peremo s pralnim strojem pa smo še vsi živi zaradi te novice sigurno ne bomo nehali
poleg tega je pa sigurno več gliv v umetnih, plastičnih čevljih katere ljudje na veliko kupujejo in nosijo dan na dan pa nihče nič ne reče